Diligence in Holiness

by James Jacob Prasch, 1999


There are different aspects of things.  A parent who sees a kid growing up every day will notice things about that kid other people won’t.  But on the other hand, somebody who sees the kid every once in a while will notice things the parent doesn’t, like how big you got.  I used to get that when I was a kid.  You have those excessively overweight old aunties, who I’m rapidly kissing up with, and you would only see them when somebody got married or somebody died, and it would always be the same thing—how big you got, “Give auntie a big kiss,” and your mother goes like this (points toward auntie).


Fellowship like this, having come from the background it did, people who were burned by false teaching and ultimately by the nonsense of the TB (Toronto Blessing) and all that “tuberculosis”, meeting in an industrial unit and we had this thing that melts tar macadam to pave the road, to try to keep warm, and not knowing if we would have the thing the following week.  Now there is a building like this, I thank God for that and people running us down and knocking, David here (exposing) all the error and heresy, we were teaching the Word of God but we were the ones who got….


I don’t demean what God has done here and I come every so often and I see the changes.  I also know, as David Nokes pointed out recently and it is something I have said myself various times, when one church is going through a kind of struggle, you will find that there are other fellowships going through the same kind of thing at the same time around the country.  We have a common enemy.  And it is true; it is also true that we are called to be faithful and not successful, as man counts success.  For God, success is faithfulness.  Was Noah a successful preacher?  Well, as God counts success, yes, he was faithful, but only seven people were saved and they were all related to him.  In the last days, we know there will be a remnant; I accept that.  That is one side of the story, and then there is the other side of the story. 


How come even churches that teach the truth don’t seem to see much growth?  How come churches that do not have false doctrine, that are financially honest, that evangelize, how come they don’t see much fruit?  Now, part of that can also be explained quite fairly.  Because of the sin in the nation, God is not pouring out his Spirit on the nation, but he is pouring it out in certain places.  I have often pointed out, if you want to see your church grow, if you want to catch fish, go to where the fish are biting--single mothers, mom and toddlers' groups on the council estates.  Those women have no man to take care of them, those kids have no father.  A church with a clean place and a safe place for mothers to bring kids, and those mothers come in and you witness to the mothers and you give them coffee and the kids play, then the kids come to Sunday school; you have to fish where the fish are biting.  Don’t cast your nets where there aren’t any.  Do you want to see people saved?  Go to Gypsies.  This morning, just getting a cup of coffee over here with Alan in a shop up in West Hawtin, taking to a Catholic women—Catholics are more open than Protestants.  That is not to say don’t witness to non-Catholics but this area of England, the Reformation never reached here, East Langston and Merseyside.  To this day, this is a Catholic area, plus the Irish influence, that is true, you can count for part of it.


Another thing is of course that we talk about a lot is the Gospel being discredited by the TV preachers.  You know, I’ve said a lot out of necessity about what is wrong with Benny Hinn, what is wrong with Morris Cerullo and Wynn Lewis but sometimes I have to say what is wrong with Jacob Prasch?  I think it is right to say what is wrong with the Assemblies of God, what is wrong with Elim, what is wrong with the Church of England, but then I have to say “What is wrong with Fosley Pentecostal, what is wrong with Hinley, what is wrong with Walfall, what is wrong with the good churches. 


In 1987, I got on an airplane, kissed my wife and my two little kids goodbye, my son was a baby, and I got on an airplane in Tel Aviv and flew to New York.  When I was in New York, I was trying to arrange financially to get the money to go to seminary and I was in New York and I went to the neighborhood where I had lived before I immigrated to Israel, which was near Time Square being roughly to New York something like what Piccadilly Circus is to London, something like that only it is bigger.  And there was a murder every 4-6 hours; there were 4-6 murders a day in New York, more than half of them totally unsolved, mainly drug dealers killing other drug dealers over territorial fights.  That was the murder rate—every 4 hours a murder, 6 murders a day sometimes, children access the most unspeakable pornography.  There are Christians who are becoming addicted to pornographic material over the internet, things they would not go out and buy.  The idiot box, channel 4—I pray to God that that place collapses, that thing is evil, gay, lesbian, all this stuff, smut.  But there are Christians in the house and they watch that. What’s going on?  Somebody who has had a problem with alcohol should not touch alcohol.  If you cannot use alcohol as a beverage, it has to be a drug, you should not have it.  Or, if there is somebody in your family that has been a problem to, you shouldn’t put a stumbling block before them.  You know there are Christians who are secret drinkers.  There are Christians who are secret gamblers.  I don’t mean a glass of wine with dinner, I mean alcohol abusers. 


Joshua 7:23-26: And they took them from inside the tent and brought them to Joshua and to all the sons of Israel, and they poured them out before the LORD.  Then Joshua and all Israel with him, took Achan the son of Zerah, the silver, the mantle, the bar of gold, his sons, his daughters, his oxen, his donkeys, his sheep, his tent and all that belonged to him; and they brought them up to the valley of Achor.  [Now, in the Bible, Achor means a place of calamity, something like that, trouble, calamitous-type trouble.]   And Joshua said, "Why have you troubled us? The LORD will trouble you this day." And all Israel stoned them with stones; and they burned them with fire after they had stoned them with stones.  And they raised over him a great heap of stones that stands to this day, and the LORD turned from the fierceness of His anger. Therefore the name of that place has been called the valley of Achor to this day.


This stuff was concealed it says, buried in his tent.  How spiritual I am is not the guy you see up here talking to you, it is the guy who goes home and how is it that he treats his wife and his children? What is buried in my tent?  What is wrong with me?  What is buried in my tent that should not be there?  What is buried in your tent that should not be there?  Now, some things could be wrong for one person and not another.  If you have a glass of wine with dinner, I don’t care about that but for somebody else that can be a sin.  But there are some things that are wrong for all of us, things under the ban, things under the ban that can put us in the fire.  It says that in Ephesians, warning Christians, it says no fornicator shall enter the Kingdom, no liar, no thief.  Some people tend to confuse holiness with legalism.  David Wilkerson is not perfect but he has the idea that Christians should not have TVs.  I tell you what, we would be better off with no TVs than Christian Channel Europe or TBN.  I am not saying having a TV is wrong but what is on there now?  And the Christian stuff is worse and more of a reproach than the world.  I can take Channel 4 with all of its smut; it is less dishonoring to the name of Christ than Christian Channel Europe because they are not doing it in the name of Jesus.  What is in the tent? 


I am not talking about legalism.  I am not taking about that, I am not like that as a person, but holiness?  Yes, I know what is wrong with Hinn, I know what is wrong with Cerullo and Colin Dye, but what is wrong with me?  I know what is wrong with all of these churches and denominations but what is wrong with my own?  If the problem is simply it is not that God season in his sovereign grace, that he is preparing us for something that is coming, I can live with that.  If it is that God has taken his hand off of it and he is only going to deliver the remnant, I can live with that.  But if there are things that are buried in our tents that are causing us to experience defeat before our enemies, we should not live with that.  I don’t know.  I don’t know when things are going change, I don’t even know how things are going to change, but I know what has to change before things can change.  I don’t know when things are going to change, I don’t know how they are going to change, but I know what has to change before there can be change, and what has to change is us. 


What I saw in New York can happen in England. God bless. 


There would be, in terms of crime, nothing in England that would approach it except for the really bad council estates in Manchester and London, there would be nothing close to what you had in the states if they did not have the guns.  Unspeakable crime rate, worse than anything I have seen in this country except for the really, really bad estates in London and Manchester.  That would be the only thing that would be like that.  Mid-town Manhattan had 144 licensed sex shops.  All over the streets, crack cocaine dealers and heroin dealers, mainly crack cocaine now. Prostitutes, some of them as young as 11 years old, addicted to crack cocaine controlled by pimps who supplied the drugs.  Homosexual transvestite prostitutes, stuff that was not even natural. So much crime, so much pornography, so much prostitution, so much drugs that the theater and restaurant industry was being squeezed out of existence, people stopped going to Broadway musicals, like the West End in this country.  Unspeakable.  Absolutely unspeakable, the worst I have ever seen, very few believing churches, particularly in proportion to how big the city is.  After Tokyo, New York is the second biggest metropolitan area in the developed world.  The city itself is like 8 million, like London, but the suburbs, it is like 22-23 million.  Only Tokyo is bigger in the developed world.  You have places in the developing world bigger than that but not in the developed world.  So big, and very few believers, and the preachers graveyard, people could not get off the ground, people could not get churches going, people tried.  Good people tried; there had not been a revival in over 100 years in New York City.  David Wilkerson came to New York and he opened a church in a little auditorium on 43rd street called the Townhouse Theater.  I stood there and I talked to him the week he opened it, became a friend of his son, Gary, who used to live in London. I was talking to him and he told me three months before Jimmy Swaggart fell into what he did, David Wilkerson told me God showed him to get away from Swaggart, to stop publishing things in Swaggart’s magazine, Swaggart was going down and something was really wrong.  Three months later he was proved right.  Four and a half years before the war in the Gulf he described it to me.  This was the same week, in New York, 1987, October, when the stock markets of the world crashed, remember that?  I was there.  He said “The stock markets of the world are going to crash tomorrow.”  And they did.  In a one-to-one conversation he told me what was going to happen to Swaggart; it a one-to-one conversation he told me about the war in the Gulf.  I am not saying the man is perfect; I am not saying I always agree with him.  I am not saying that he does not have his problems but he is a man of God who loves Jesus and he is honest and I was there the week he opened that place. 


Last Christmas I was back in my native New York, my family was from here in Merseyside and that, and Manchester but I am from New York as you can tell by my Robert DeNiro accent, Bugs Bunny, James Cagney, Barbra Streisand, etc.  I took my wife and my daughter with me to Time Square Church, to the mid-week meeting, only it is no longer in that auditorium on 43rd street, now it is on 51st Street in a big, huge theater.  It moved to a second theater but it outgrew that and now it has a big theater.  Unfortunately, there is no longer a theater big enough to hold that many people.  Probably Radio City might be but that would be about it.  If you get there on time you won’t get a seat.  On a Sunday it is multiple services, they cue up an hour ahead of time to get into the building. 


I taught a Bible study at their rescue mission once, called The Upper Room.  Every day in the Upper Room, there are pimps being saved, prostitutes being saved, homosexuals being saved, drug addicts being saved, alcoholics being saved, homeless people being saved, every day.  The crime in New York City has gone down 30% in the last 4 years.  Of the 144 licensed sex shops in mid-town Manhattan, all but 47 have closed down and they are in financial trouble.  42nd Street, which became un-walkable, now it is Walt Disney shops.  The murder rate in New York City has gone below the 1964 level.  Imagine less murder than there was nearly 35 years ago.  I saw the real thing.  I saw the real thing. 


The heartbreak, it began as disgust, then it came to heartbreak, then it came to just anger.  Every time I drive by that Mormon place I want to vomit out the window, up here on the motorways.  Why are they the fastest growing Christian sect in this country?  Why is Islam the fastest growing, institutionalized religion?  Yes, we know about all the leaders of the corrupt denominations and all the hype, we know about that, but is there more to it?  I don’t know why anybody would go for a counterfeit when the real is so obvious.  Why would somebody go to Sunderland, or Holy Trinity ‘bedlam’ or Pensacola when all you’ve got to do is go to New York?  Just go to the Gypsy caravan site.  In Spain and Portugal eighty percent of the Gypsies are born again, eighty percent!  There is not a Gypsy family in this country that does not have believers in it.  Why do people want to go for the counterfeit, the fad, when you can go to the real?  You can’t get into David Wilkerson’s church.  Believe me, Time Square was hell!  Unless you went to Brixton or the north side of Manchester, really bad, you would not see anything anywhere near as bad.  Believe me, if that can happen in New York City, if God can move that way in Time Square, I don’t believe there is any place that he can’t move that powerfully.  If that can happen in New York, it can happen in London and in Liverpool, I am convinced.  I know what I saw.  I am talking first hand now; I know what I saw.  They banned Toronto, they banned it!  Another Pentecostal but they banned it, same in Italy, they banned it, Gypsies banned it, but that is only part of the story.  God’s sovereign grace, He is moving among them, that is also part of the story, but is there another side of the story?  Is there something in my life, is there something in our ministry, is there something in the churches that are associated with us, are there things that are another aspect of why things are not working? Now, I am not saying that God is not working at all, he is.  He has done things here in Henley and he is still doing things here in Henley, but this is nothing like Milan or New York, it is nothing like the Gypsy’s although they have their problems. 


Turn with me, please, to the book of Joshua, Chapter 5: 


Joshua 5:1: Now it came about when all the kings of the Amorites who were beyond the Jordan to the west, and all the kings of the Canaanites who were by the sea, heard how the LORD had dried up the waters of the Jordan before the sons of Israel until they had crossed, that their hearts melted, and there was no spirit in them any longer, because of the sons of Israel. 


Now the natural propensity of the flesh, when God blesses us and he gives us victory is to become proud, to become swelled up and think it is because of us instead of him.  You know, in Israel it is popularly believed, among most people, that they were inundated with themselves after the tremendous, unbelievable victory of the Six Day War in 1967, they thought they were supermen, Ubermensch, invincible.  In the Yom Kippur War, they almost lost and realized they weren’t and even secular Israelis had some kind of sense “God gave us that victory, it was not us.”  Notice what a faithful leader like Joshua says.  After God blesses them and after others see it, they weren’t so elated. 


Joshua 5:2-9:  At that time the LORD said to Joshua, "Make for yourself flint knives and circumcise again the sons of Israel the second time."   So Joshua made himself flint knives and circumcised the sons of Israel at Gibeath-haaraloth.  [Which means like the “mound of foreskins.”]  And this is the reason why Joshua circumcised them: all the people who came out of Egypt who were males, all the men of war, died in the wilderness along the way, after they came out of Egypt.   For all the people who came out were circumcised, but all the people who were born in the wilderness along the way as they came out of Egypt had not been circumcised.   For the sons of Israel walked forty years in the wilderness, until all the nation, that is, the men of war who came out of Egypt, perished because they did not listen to the voice of the LORD, to whom the LORD had sworn that He would not let them see the land which the LORD had sworn to their fathers to give us, a land flowing with milk and honey.  [Now there is much typology in here but let us look at what it says:]   And their children whom He raised up in their place, Joshua circumcised; for they were uncircumcised, because they had not circumcised them along the way.  Now it came about when they had finished circumcising all the nation, that they remained in their places in the camp until they were healed.  Then the LORD said to Joshua, "Today I have rolled away the reproach of Egypt from you." So the name of that place is called Gilgal [meaning rolling, galgal is wheel, gal is wave, galgal is literally “wave-wave, meaning wheel, and Gilgal means the act of the rolling] to this day.  [Because it is where God rolled away, literally, rolled away the reproach of Egypt.]



Now right after this they entered the land, they cross the Jordan and get ready to attack Jericho, but before they could claim this victory, this next big victory, they had to circumcise the people to get rid of the reproach of Egypt.  Most of you know from our recordings, 1st Corinthians 10, etc., what is Egypt a picture of in the Bible?  The world!  What does circumcision represent in the Bible?  Conversion.  Look at Romans 2:28:


Romans 2:28-29:  For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly; neither is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh.   But he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that which is of the heart, [As in Jeremiah 9:25-26, as in Ezekiel 44:9, as in Deuteronomy 10:16, Jeremiah 4:4, etc.  Circumcise your hearts.]


It was the second generation.  Now remember, the first generation could not enter the Promised Land, only the second.  The old creation cannot go to heaven, only the new one.  But it goes further than this.  There is a problem when our children grow up in Christian families.  It is not always easy to tell when your kid is a believer if he grew up in it.  Somebody like me saved out of the occult and the hippie thing, I knew when I got saved.  But when a kid grows up, and my kids, when they were little kids I used to tell them in Hebrew, in Israel, David and Goliath and all this, and stories from the Bible, Joshua and Jericho, they grew up in it. Shabbat, Sunday school, that is all they ever knew.  Parents who are not perfect, who have faults but believed, Christian school, stuff like that, that is all they ever knew.  It is not always easy to tell.  It begins with the second generation, but it is also the second generation of a church.  I have been saying for a few years and a number of people have been saying, including John MacArthur, who I don’t always agree with on certain points, but mainly he is right.  A lot of people that put their hands up in these meetings and come forward at these stadium things, these Luis Palau things, and Billy Graham things and a lot of people under the charismatic, they were never saved.  They were never born again.  “Depart from me, I never knew you,” not that you are backslidden, “I never knew you.”  Even though there are miracles, signs, wonders, a lot of these people were never saved.  I am convinced that a lot of these people in Sunderland and stuff like that are people who were never saved.  Before you can go any further, we’ve got to come to this point.  They were riding on the things God did in the past.  They knew and everybody else knew how God blessed them in the past.  You realize the only thing that the Assemblies of God in Great Britain or the United States, or the Elim Church has to look upon is its past, is a noble history?  The only thing the Baptist Union in this country has worth cherishing is its history?  The only thing the Church of England has worth noting in this country is its history?  The inertia of what you were will only carry you so far for so long and then if you are not living up to your history it becomes something dead that somebody else will pick up but it is no longer yours any more.  The true Methodists are not the Methodist Church, the true Methodists are like the Nazarenes, the people like that are the ones who stayed loyal to Wesley’s ideas, not the other ones, and even they are getting weird in America, ecumenical and all sorts.  They didn’t under Joshua, ride on their inertia.  They realized that this idea of conversion, of making sure the next generation is circumcised, making sure that everyone is right was necessary before they could move on. 


You know, no church should stop preaching the gospel.  Now, it is wrong to preach to the converted week after week after week, like the old Brethren and the Baptist, every Sunday night preaching the gospel to the already saved but every time I hear the gospel preached it still benefits me, if it’s the true gospel.  I still need to hear the basic facts, “Jesus loves me, this I know, the Bible tells me so.”  I know that I am a sinner and that God became a man to take my sin, I need to hear that.  You can never hear that stuff too much.  Now, if that is all you ever hear and that is all you know, there is a problem and if you are only preaching that to the converted that is wrong.  We always have to keep going back to the basic things.  Rolling away the reproach of Egypt, the reproach of the world, but now we get to the real issue.  They do that and God gives them this spectacular victory at Jericho, and we deal with this on the rapture recording and we deal with this on the Autumn Feasts of Israel recordings and how it teaches about the rapture and everything, and the trumpets and all that, but what happens after Jericho? 


You know, we are just as vulnerable after a victory as we are after a defeat.  That is why Paul says “Let he who thinks he stands take heed, lest he fall.”  We are just as vulnerable, not only as individuals and as families but as churches after victory as well as defeat.  Joshua never let the victory go to the people’s heads.  Let us see what happens when God’s people lose sight of that.  It certainly applies to Israel and the Jews, but as 1 Corinthians 10 tells us and as Romans 15, these things were written so that we would not make the same mistake.  Let us see what happens after Jericho.


At the end of chapter 6, the last verse, where the text is divided now, although it was not divided in the original Hebrew:


Joshua 6:27: So the LORD was with Joshua, and his fame was in all the land.


Praise God when there is a famous man who is humble of spirit and God blesses him, but the real test is, not what happens when he is around, what happens after he is gone?  What happened to Israel after Joshua was gone?  What happened to the Baptists after Spurgeon was gone?  What happened to the Methodists after Wesley was gone to be with the Lord? 


Joshua 7:1-2: But the sons of Israel acted unfaithfully in regard to the things under the ban, for Achan, the son of Carmi, [like Carmi in Israel, like the horns, that’s Carin is horn, Carmi El is like “My flourishing place, something like that] the son of Zabdi, the son of Zerah [meaning seed], from the tribe of Judah, took some of the things under the ban, therefore the anger of the LORD burned against the sons of Israel.  Now Joshua sent men from Jericho to Ai, which is near Beth-aven, [meaning “the house of the stone”] east of Bethel [near the house of God], and said to them, "Go up and spy out the land." So the men went up and spied out Ai. 


Now this replays the same thing that happens when they spied out the land the first time, remember?  The same basic approach, a reconnaissance mission and the spies would go bring back the report.  Remember the first time they came back and they brought grapes with them on the pole, that is the symbol of the Ministry of Tourism in Israel today, grapes on the pole and then they sent the spies in to Rahab?  Well, now they are doing the same thing, it is a reconnaissance mission in anticipation for the attack. 


Joshua 7:3-4:  And they returned to Joshua and said to him, "Do not let all the people go up; only about two or three thousand men need go up to Ai; do not make all the people toil up there, for they are few."  4 So about three thousand men from the people went up there, but they fled from the men of Ai. 


Second mistake, if the first mistake is trying to run on the inertia of God’s past blessings, taking it for granted, the second mistake was not so much underestimating your enemy but overestimating yourself.  This text shows us that there were about 12,000 in the city of Ai and they thought “We are invincible, 4 to 1; we can beat them easy, we did it all the other times.”  This is pride, but it is something else.  “Don’t send everybody up.”  The fellowship must act as a fellowship.  The fellowship must act as a fellowship.  Now, there is a place for Gideon’s Army, for the elite, but the whole army in the elite had to act, the whole 300.  What is the reason people won’t go witnessing?  Are there valid reasons?  Fair enough, but a crowd draws a crowd.  There are certain things that tell how spiritual you are, how spiritual I am, how spiritual the church is.  Our prayer life, our hunger for the word, our desire for fellowship or our desire to witness, not that we can all preach publically but we can all witness.  There is nobody who can’t give out tracts and talk to people.  A crowd draws a crowd.  “Oh, we only need a few…”  No, no, no. 


Joshua 7:5:   And the men of Ai struck down about thirty-six of their men, and pursued them from the gate as far as Shebarim, [in the Hebrew means “things that are broken”] and struck them down on the descent, so the hearts of the people melted and became as water. 


Know what this is doing, before the victory at Jericho it said “The hearts of the pagans melted for fear of God and his people:


Joshua 5:1:  Now it came about when all the kings of the Amorites who were beyond the Jordan to the west, and all the kings of the Canaanites who were by the sea, heard how the LORD had dried up the waters of the Jordan before the sons of Israel until they had crossed, that their hearts melted, and there was no spirit in them any longer, because of the sons of Israel.


“How we heard the Lord had dried up the waters.”  The pagans, the unbelievers, their hearts used to melt in fear before God’s people, but once the pride got in, once the sin got in, once the fellowship stopped acting as a fellowship, part of it trying to carry the ball for all of it, now their heart melted before their enemies. 


You won’t find a Jehovah’s Witness who does not knock on doors.  Now, of course they are trying to work for their salvation, we are not.  Because our salvation is a gift, we take it for granted; we don’t have to work for our salvation.  They are trying to get into heaven; we were given a ticket, we did not earn it.  We know we cannot earn our salvation, so because they are trying to earn something; they are going to be more zealous for it.  But Christians, true Christians, should be just as zealous, not to get saved, but because we have been saved.  You won’t find Jehovah’s Witness only a couple of people will go out and proselytize or whatever they call what they do, but churches, even our own churches, you will find only a couple of people evangelizing.  Now, I am not talking about legitimate reasons, work, health, children, but if there is a football game or rugby game that you can record anyway?  That is not a good reason. 


And the idea of going down, in verse 5—in Hebrew thought the idea of going up is a good thing, going down is a bad thing.  The Psalms of Ascent, the Jews for the Pilgrim Feasts had to worship in Jerusalem and they called the Psalms that they used liturgically, in the Siddur for these Pilgrim Feasts were called the Psalms of Ascent.  No matter what direction you approach Jerusalem from, you are always going up.  Going up, to immigrate to Israel, when a Jew immigrates to Israel you say “Aliyah.”  Like El Al, the airlines, going up.  When a Jew leaves Israel it’s varedeth, you go down, your status goes down, so in Hebrew thought the idea of going up is good, but the idea of going down is bad.  Your status goes down and this is echoed in what is happening spiritually, the fact that they are going down.  It does not come across well in the translation. 


Joshua 7:6: Then Joshua tore his clothes and fell to the earth on his face before the ark of the LORD until the evening, [Remember, the ark is wood and gold because Jesus is God and man, the shekhinah was in it, was the presence of the Lord among them, right?  The first thing he does is repentance.  He rends his clothes, as it were.] both he and the elders of Israel; and they put dust on their heads. 


Man, when those Mormons open that damnable place up the road, and I say damnable in the sense that God has damned it, that Mormon thing is evil, and it is so crazy, God is a man on another planet?  Have you listened to Copeland?  Copeland is now teaching the same thing about God as the Mormons, it gets worse and worse.  There is not a Bible believing church were the elders should not be asking “Why has this happened under our nose? Why Lord?”  Now, fair enough, some churches, and I am happy to say this one, did try to do something about it, some people did pray, some people leafleted, I thank God for the ones who did.  But what is the problem here?  Yes, I know about Hinn, I know about Cerullo, I know about Winn Lewis, I know about the heretics and the liars, but what is wrong with Jacob Prasch.  I know about Elim and the Assemblies of God and the restoration, I know about that, but what about my church? 


Joshua 7:7: And Joshua said, "Alas, O Lord God, why didst Thou ever bring this people over the Jordan, only to deliver us into the hand of the Amorites, to destroy us? If only we had been willing to dwell beyond the Jordan! 


O Lord God, we left Bellfield’s place and we came here to Harris Common, why?  Why did we ever leave where we were, where are we going, what is happening?  What have we come out of? We should have stayed where we were.  What’s going on here, what’s wrong?  Now, remember, Joshua himself did nothing wrong. 


Joshua 7:8:  "O Lord, what can I say since Israel has turned their back before their enemies? 


We cannot stop these cults.  We cannot stop these Moslems.  We cannot stop these New Agers, we cannot stop it. 


Joshua 7:9: "For the Canaanites and all the inhabitants of the land will hear of it, and they will surround us and cut off our name from the earth. And what wilt Thou do for Thy great name?" 


Lord, we are not so much concerned for ourselves but what about you?  People are going to see that Mormon monstrosity and think they must be the ones that are right because they have the biggest place in town.  I looked on the internet the other day.  Why are women turning to Islam?  And it takes all these lies, twisting verses in the New Testament out of all context trying to make it seem like Islam gives a higher place to women than Christianity, until I clicked on the Amnesty International web site where they stripped a woman naked, tied her down and men flogged her with cane poles.  One woman got 200 lashes because she was falsely accused of having an affair and then they stripped her naked and beat her with rods, 200 lashes, they don’t tell you that, of course. 


Lord, okay, I don’t care about me but what about your name?”  That is what Joshua is asking and to be perfectly honest, that is something I am asking. 


Joshua 7:10-12: So the LORD said to Joshua, "Rise up! Why is it that you have fallen on your face?   "Israel has sinned, and they have also transgressed My covenant which I commanded them. And they have even taken some of the things under the ban and have both stolen and deceived. Moreover, they have also put them among their own things.   "Therefore the sons of Israel cannot stand before their enemies; they turn their backs before their enemies, for they have become accursed. I will not be with you anymore unless you destroy the things under the ban from your midst.


The victory at Jericho was spectacular.  No matter how spectacular the victory was, what does it matter now?  The Normandy Invasion was spectacular.  Britain stood alone before the Americans came into the war against the Third Reich, before the Russians and Americans got into it, Britain stood alone against Hitler and Mussolini and finally they won.  What does it matter now, this country is becoming a colony of Germany, not that I am trying to get political, who is running Europe.  What does it matter now?  It doesn’t matter now, it is irrelevant.  The history is quickly forgotten, it is no longer important if you don’t live up to it.  The victory in Jericho was forgotten, now it’s the pagan, the Canaanite who has the upper hand.  Now let us look at what else happened.


Joshua 7:13-14: "Rise up! [says the Lord] Consecrate the people and say, 'Consecrate yourselves for tomorrow, for thus the LORD, the God of Israel, has said, "There are things under the ban in your midst, O Israel. You cannot stand before your enemies until you have removed the things under the ban from your midst."   'In the morning then you shall come near by your tribes. And it shall be that the tribe which the LORD takes by lot shall come near by families, and the family which the LORD takes shall come near by households, and the household which the LORD takes shall come near man by man. 


The whole fellowship, tribe by tribe, family by family, individual by individual.


Joshua 7:15-16: “And it shall be that the one who is taken with the things under the ban shall be burned with fire, [now this is an Old Testament metaphor of hell, it eludes to hell, although that is typological, the person could repent before he was executed] he and all that belongs to him, because he has transgressed the covenant of the LORD, and because he has committed a disgraceful thing in Israel.'"   So Joshua arose early in the morning and brought Israel near by the tribes, and the tribe of Judah was taken.


Now stoning was the normal way of execution, burning was worse, that was saved for special things and the reason was its typological meaning, it alludes to Hell, it is symbolic of Hell.  Things under the ban will put people in Hell if there is no repentance. 


Joshua 7:17-21:  And he brought the family of Judah near, and he took the family of the Zerahites; and he brought the family of the Zerahites near man by man, and Zabdi was taken.   And he brought his household near man by man; and Achan, son of Carmi, son of Zabdi, son of Zerah, from the tribe of Judah, was taken.   Then Joshua said to Achan, "My son, I implore you, give glory to the LORD, the God of Israel, and give praise to Him; and tell me now what you have done. Do not hide it from me." [The guy had a chance to repent]. So Achan answered Joshua and said, "Truly, I have sinned against the LORD, the God of Israel, and this is what I did: when I saw among the spoil a beautiful mantle from Shinar [Now understand what Shinar would have meant.  It is related to the word for ‘tooth’ and if you look in Zechariah and in Genesis, it is associated with Babylon.  Remember the wicked woman from Zechariah, we have a recording on it, the wicked woman came from Shinar in Zechariah] two hundred shekels of silver and a bar of gold fifty shekels in weight, then I coveted them and took them; and behold, they are concealed in the earth inside my tent with the silver underneath it."


Silver has to do with salvation, doesn’t it?  The half shekel for the firstborn, the price of the Levites, Jesus was betrayed for 30 pieces of silver. Silver is a corrosive metal, gold is noncorrosive.  Silver is only of temporary value, gold is noncorrosive, it represents things of eternal value in Biblical typology, but notice what happens. The silver is pushed down; on top of it are unclean things.  While the salvation is there, the price of the salvation was there but the foreskin was removed, the reproach of Egypt was taken away, they came through the Jordan and then on top of all that, things under the ban are buried under the tent.


Joshua 7:22: So Joshua sent messengers, and they ran to the tent; and behold, it was concealed in his tent with the silver underneath it. 


Oh boy. Things under the ban, concealed in our tents.  These things can put us in the fire.  You know?